Statement by U.S. Treasury Secretary Steven T. Mnuchin on Charlottesville and Yale Classmate’s inquiries (19.08.2017)
I write what I like.
It is hard to believe, but it is true that, President Donald J. Trump, who says there are good people and great people within groups of White Supremacists, White Nationalists and Nazis; because of this are obviously racist. There are only fools, that can deny that now. Those who do is apologists for the President and his fellow complicit aides. This could be said for a number of reasons, also because of the people around him, and not denouncing fellow leadership of organizations who spread hatred in the United States.
President Trump has clearly supported the ‘Unite the Right’ rally in Charlottesville and the way it has been done with violence. Clearly, shows the problems of the alt-right and the neo-Nazis. Still, the ACLU of old, are still with their wisdom showing how a just and free society should make sure their transgressions and their hatred get perceived in society. The ACLU in the 1934 shows their paper on free speech for Nazis are still relevant today. It shouldn’t be, but clearly it is. Because the ideals of the ACLU are noble and shows the openness, to a society where ideas get spread and get to streets. Still, there should be allowed to address the differences without breaching the laws and statutes of the law. If so, then the Nazis should serve for their crime, as all of the ones who breaks the law.
The ideal of ACLU of 1934, the argument and the approach are one of the best I have read, even if it is in defense of despicable, this was done before the holocaust and all the hatred of the Nazis was known. Before, they could do so, when they took to power in Germany and started their dictatorship that led to the second World War. Still, with the knowledge of the results of all the hatred and disgusting ideals and ideology, the ACLU shows with their paper, an understanding we should follow in this day. Not because the streets, the airways, the TV-Channels or any other platform should have Nazis and their teachings on their, but if should mock it or fact-check their ignorance. Than it needs to be in the open and not make it underground to grow into an unknown force, that can come with militias and destroy the freedom of speech.
This is what the ACLU of 1934 believed and we should be like that today. Just take a look!
“To whose who advocate suppressing propaganda they hate, we ask – where do you draw the line? They can answer only the terms of revolutionists – at our political enemies. But experience shows that “political enemies” is a broad term, and has covered the breaking up even of working class meetings by rival work class organizations. It illustrates the danger, and the impractically of making any distinctions in defending rights sought by all” (…) “To those who urge suppression of meetings that may incite riot or violence, the complete answer is that nobody can tell in advance what meetings may do so. Where there is reasonable ground for apprehension, the police can ordinarily prevent disorder” (…) “To whose who would suppress meetings where race or religious hatred is likely to be stirred up, the answer is simple – that there is no general agreement on what constitutes race or religious prejudice. Once the bars are so let down, the fields is open for all-comers to charge such prejudice against any propagandists – Communists, Socialists, atheists, – even against Jews attacking the Nazis. On that ground the Union has opposed the anti-Nazi bills introduced in the New York and New Jersey legislature punishing propaganda which “stirs up race or religious hatred” or “domestic strife”. No laws can be written to outlaw Nazi propaganda without striking at freedom of speech in general” (…) “Further, we point out the inevitable effect of making martyrs by persecution. Persecute the Nazis, drive them underground, imitate their methods in Germany – and attract to them hundreds of sympathizers with the persecuted who would otherwise be indifferent. The best way to combat their propaganda is in the open where it can be fought by counter-propaganda, protest demonstrations, picketing, – and all the devices of attack which do not involve denying the rights to meet and speak” (…) “If and when Nazi meetings results in breaches of the peace, their organizers can be prosecuted under the criminal law. If their speakers libel individuals by reason of race and religion, recourse to the criminal libel statutes is open as a remedy. Short of that, and of overt acts of interference with others’ rights their freedom to carry on their agitation should be unrestricted” (ACLU, 1934).
It is proof that the knowledge and the arguments of old can be useful today as it was yesterday. The people, the organizations and their ideals might be the same, the problem might be a resurrected one. But the Nazis should be allowed to speak and have their meetings, as long as they are not breaching the law and the statutes. If they do, then they should be prosecuted!
The ACLU of 1934, have understood certain aspects of life and also the martyrdom of the political enemies and revolutionaries might give soil for further extremes. Also, give the platform and the leadership of these organization more power. Therefore, to silence them totally and ban them, does not make them go away, but make them underground.
This paper shows the importance of free speech, but also the grandeur of fighting the Nazis within just acts, to counter their propaganda and their ideology. That we should do, undress the hatred and white supremacy, which should be buried. Since the Nazi ideology shouldn’t be needed to be in our time, as it wasn’t needed even in the 1930s when the ALCU wrote this paper. Still, we should counter it and show the misgivings and the worthlessness of the Nazism, instead of banning it. The bans of their acts will only enforce it more.
It doesn’t help that President Trump defended the Charlottesville ‘Unite the Right’ rally and their violence. While attacking the counter-demonstrators. Also, neglecting the fear and the violence created by the right-extremists. That is why peaceful marches, the peaceful demonstrations and addressing the lacking clues of justification for their ideology and their belief is needed. Instead, of making them a fringe organizations, who can suddenly pop-up like wild-flowers. Therefore, the need to address them at public courts are more important than ever. To not give them a free-pass, but for their disgrace, their misunderstood arrogance of race and for their devilish ideology, who are to take total control and to terminate others. That cannot be shadow and put in the dark, the violence and viciousness of the Nazis, cannot be silenced and their will of doing evil. Should be known!
To say anything else is ignorant, they should not become martyrs, but make fooled and mocked. They should understand, that they are not all-powerful, but people we can bring down from the pedestal and put in the trash-bind of history. Peace.
American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) – ‘Shall we defend free speech for Nazis in America’ (October 1934
After hree more CEO’s resigned from the American Manufacturing Council or the Trump Administration Manufacturing Council who was assembled in January 2017. Since the Charlottesville alt-right rallies and defense of it, there has been dozens of CEO’s resigning. Today there was two more, one was Denise Morrison of Campbell Soups, Jeff Immelt of General Electric and Inge Thulin of 3M. Therefore, the resistance and pressure has succeeded.
Yesterday Donald Trump wrote: “For every CEO that drops out of the Manufacturing Council, I have many to take their place. Grandstanders should not have gone on. JOBS!” (Trump, 15.08.2017). Did he yesterday think he could easily replace 9 CEO’s who resigned within 48 hours yesterday. Also, the earlier resignation of Elon Musk of Tesla. So now there are even two more on the Council resigning themselves from it. As a reaction to the President’s Defense of White Nationalists, White Supremacy and the Alt-Right in Charlottesville. Even when his statements yesterday wasn’t true and has been debunked by witnesses in Charlottesville, as the clergy on CNN has proven.
So today, the almighty fixer and guy with fantastic deal-making skills had to do this: “Rather than putting pressure on the businesspeople of the Manufacturing Council & Strategy & Policy Forum, I am ending both. Thank you all!” (Trump, 16.08.2017). Just like so many of his businesses, they got discontinued. The Resistance and other activists with promises of boycott and calling out the corporations their values and moral judgment for participating and complicit supporting Trump. They don’t have too, as the CEO’s who has left are making sure their missions are gone.
Clearly, the President must have gotten a whiff of the pressure put on the CEO’s and their businesses, as the people are telling they would boycott and stop buying their products if they stay on the course and take part of the advisory councils of the President. So, this Trump initiatives has now been suspended and enacted to end because of public will and pressure. This is beautiful and proves the power of Social Media and campaigning.
The Manufacturing Council and their CEO’s could not be changed or get new appointments, since Trump couldn’t stomach or have the will to force his own agenda on the businesses. It was a nice propaganda machine, but now it couldn’t carry its own. The Council has lost value and therefore abandoned by him.
People are really reacting to his openness to supporting the “Alt-Right”, the White Nationalist, White Supremacists and the Neo-Nazi’s who was illegally beating and causing harm in Charlottesville. Therefore, the CEO’s couldn’t stand the pressure and be affiliated with the President. Now he has lost his leverage with these businessmen. Therefore, has to find other avenues to prove his listening skills with the business-community. Since they cannot handle is open trust into racists groups and their vile act of violence. The public are outrage and displeased with their leader, who are blaming anyone else and making up his alternative-reality, his alt-reality. Peace.
I have said it before and say it again. President Donald J. Trump is a racist; the deniers have to dig themselves a deep hole, because the Press Conference yesterday proves it. Even if the “Unite the Right” had permit, the walking of Neo-Nazis and White Supremacist shouldn’t have this sort of defense. It doesn’t belong to this world and the American experience, but apparently it do, since the President slogan is even from Nazi supporters in the mid-1920s and 1930s, the America First Movement. So his doubling down and his blatant disregard and alternative-reality. Alt-Reality I will call it, since there is not Alt-Left, there is a Alt-Right, because the Neo-Nazis, White Supremacist and the KKK are all on that basket. All of them are happy for the rise of power to Trump. Who clearly do what he can to have their support.
Just take some of the quotes from his Press Conference yesterday!
“Q: Senator McCain defined them as the same group.
Trump: What about the alt left that came charging at, as you say, at the alt right? Do they have any assemblage of guilt? What about the fact that they came charging with clubs in their hands swinging clubs? Do they have any problem? I think they do. That was a horrible, horrible day. Wait a minute. I’m not finished. I’m not finished, fake news. That was a horrible day. I will fell tell you something. I watched that very closely, much more closely than you people watched it. You had a group on one side that was bad. You had a group on the other side that was also very violent. Nobody wants to say that. I’ll say it right now. You had a group on the other side that came charging in without a permit and they were very, very violent.
Q: Do you think what you call the alt left is the same as neo-Nazis?
Trump: All of those people — i’ve condemned neo-Nazis. I’ve condemned many different groups. Not all of those people were neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch. Those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue, Robert E. Lee.
You take a look at some of the groups and you see and you would know it if you were honest reporters, which in many cases, you are not. Many of those people were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee. This week, it is Robert E. Lee and this week, Stonewall Jackson. Is it George Washington next? You have to ask yourself, where does it stop? You take a look. The night before. They were there to protest the taking down of the statue of Robert E. Lee” (Nelson & Swanson, 2017).
This sort of insane defense of the White Supremacist and Neo-Nazis that is hard to believe a sitting President in 2017 would do, but he does. He talks about the permits to walk and such, but the Alt-Right groups where violent from the get-go, a reason why the Police Officers was following the parade, while not going into the battles between the right-wing conspirators and the reactionary protest movement. He quickly blames them, and trying to save the face of fascist groups, who was violent themselves. It is insane and weird, but proves the open racist the President himself is. Trump is defending them better than the Daily Stormer and the Breitbart. Bot which is special!
“Q: You said there was hatred and violence on both sides?
Trump: I think there is blame on both sides. You look at both sides. I think there is blame object both on both sides. I have no doubt about it. You don’t have doubt about it either. If you reported it accurately, you would say that the neo-Nazis started this thing. They showed up in Charlottesville. Excuse me. They didn’t put themselves down as neo-Nazis. You had some very bad people in that group. You also had some very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group — excuse me, excuse me. I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down, of to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.
George Washington was a slave owner. Was George Washington a slave owner? So will George Washington now lose his status? Are we going to take down — excuse me. Are we going to take down statues to George Washington? How about Thomas Jefferson? What do you think of Thomas Jefferson? You like him. Good. Are we going to take down his statue. He was a major slave owner. Are we going to take down his statue? It is fine. You are changing history and culture.
You had people and i’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists. They should be condemned totally. You had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. The press has treated them absolutely unfairly. Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people but you also had troublemakers and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets and with the baseball bats. You had a lot of bad people in the other group too.
Q: You were saying the press has treated white nationalists unfairly?
Trump: No, no. There were people in that rally. I looked the night before. If you look, there were people protesting very quietly the taking down taking down the statue of Robert E. Lee. I am sure there were some bad ones.
The following day, it looked like they had some rough, bad people, neo-Nazis, white nationalists, whatever you want to call them. You had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest and very legally protest. I don’t know if you know, they had a permit. The other group didn’t have a permit.
So I only tell you this. There are two sides to a story. I thought what took place was horrible moment for our country, a horrible moment. But there are two sides to the country” (Nelson & Swanson).
So it is weird that the President would say that Neo-Nazis and White Nationalist were treated unfairly, when their were permitted to rally, even it spread fear amongst people in the town and in Virginia in general. They were right to fear it, since the violence sparked with the demonstration started. That he is even defending the statue and the name, shows his bias, instead of understand the concern of the Confederate War General name over a park and as a statue. It is as if the President is a Confederate from the New York, which is ironic.
The others reacted to the fear and wasn’t violent. Not as the ones killing and hurting opposing groups. It is weird that President Trump defends them and this way. Blue Virginia wrote this on the 4th August 2017:
“Once again Charlottesville is the focus of national attention as an “alt-right” rally is scheduled for Aug. 12, bringing hate and fear to an otherwise peaceful community. And once again people of faith are ready to rise up to meet this challenge with prayer, presence and, yes, even love. Charlottesville survived a July protest by the Klan without serious incident, but city officials appear concerned that the coming “Unite the Right” rally could be bigger and more dangerous. Led by white supremacist Richard Spencer and local activist Jason Kessler, thousands of people could attend. The rally’s stated purpose is to protest the removal of the city’s Robert E. Lee statue from the park, recently renamed Emancipation Park. City officials have been attempting to convince Kessler to relocate his rally. Kessler has responded by hiring the Warlords motorcycle gang as his “security.”” (Blue Virginia, 04.08.2017)
Clearly, the Virginians was not seeing this demonstration for the Lee Statue as a noble thing or something worthwhile, as Spencer and Kessler are even hiring Motorcycle gangs to defend them. It is like they were prepared for violence, as the local organizers had gotten security for the “alt-right” demonstrators. It is strange, that these are defended and said is fine. Since, the can carry and ride around spring fear in the Charlottesville, but the reactionary are the violent one. That is in the mind in the alternative universe of President Trump.
I am not shocked, Trump, has been and are a racists, I said it like forever, but this just settle the argument once and for all. That the doubles down on the “many sides” and saying there is many fine people amongst the White Nationalists, White Supremacists and Neo-Nazis. This is sickening. Peace.
Nelson, Libby & Swanson, Kelly – ‘Full transcript: Donald Trump’s press conference defending the Charlottesville rally’ (15.08.2017) link: https://www.vox.com/2017/8/15/16154028/trump-press-conference-transcript-charlottesville
Not long after getting into office, President Donald J. Trump appointed and created his own American Manufacturing Council or the Manufacturing Council at the White House, it was appointed on the 26th January 2017. After the weekend of the soft-spoken words against the Neo-Nazi’s, White-Supremacy and the rest of the Alt-Right extremists that was collectively created havoc in Charlottesville. The supporters against boycott and asking them to step down, is for the simple reason: that if they are part of the Council, than they are complicit and also neglecting their roles are people who has power.
The CEOs who has stepped down from the Council is now, Mark Fields from Ford Motor, Ken Frazier of Merck & Co, Klaus Kleinfeld of Aronic, Brian Krzanich of Inter Corporation, Marie Lenghi of U.S. Steel, Thea Lee of AFL-CIO, Scott Paul of Alliance for Manufacturing, and Kevin Plank of Under Amor. Also, because of the Presidents stance on Climate Change, the CEO of Tesla Elon Musk, stepped down from the Council. Therefore, within 48 hours 8 CEO’s have stepped down and in total 9.
Because on the 12th August as the “Unite the Right” who was saying they could finally walk-free and be open about their racism. Clearly, even former KKK big-man David Duke said there was there, because the victory of Trump. On the Daily Stormer, the Alt-Right and White Supremacist Daily Paper online, they even was proud of the statement and not answering journalists for his response to the media on the matter. He was correctly addressed for his misgivings as claiming it was on “all sides”.
Therefore, his answer to the people resigning is this: “For every CEO that drops out of the Manufacturing Council, I have many to take their place. Grandstanders should not have gone on. JOBS!” (Trump, 15.08.2017). Clearly, if people are still in the council, they should resign in compassion and care against the Alt-Right in the White House, the White Supremacy and the racism that is visible from the Executive. He doesn’t care, he could bash the CEOs before there had gone down to dawn, but needed 48 hours before he could address, who and what on a teleprompter to the American people.
The American people deserves a person who includes and appreciate all walks of live, not only the ones of his own. Seemingly, he bashes anyone who isn’t like him and making it hard to emigrate to the United States. This is because his appointed Attorney General Jeff Sessions works hard to make policies and regulations to fit the paradigm of Trump. That advisor Stephan Bannon, Gorka and Stephen Miller all Alt-Right craziness, compared with the ones who has been fired. Are clearly, showing the traits of this government and why the ones in the rally at Charlottesville. Feel they have a government fitting them.
Therefore, when this known, together with the slurs against Mexians, LGBT and all sort of others than White. Than you know the true compassion of Trump. The CEOs of the United States Companies who are there will support and be culpable people compromised by Trump. That is why the President even says there are always someone to take their place. They can easily be changed and get new puppets to the show. That is what the President says.
Therefore, the ones who are in the Council, know that you are used by the President, as useful props in his game. I got General Electric, Campbell Soups, Locheed Martin, Johnson /& Johnson, Dell Technologies, Timken Company, Caterpillar, Boeing, 3M and Newell Brands on my board. The others didn’t add anything to create jobs anyway. Soon he will get FoxxCon to join, since they soon has business in Wisconsin and Chinese doesn’t care about internal political squabble elsewhere, it is just business.
The ones who will take a step against the racists uprising, the ignorant President who couldn’t condemn it, but when did, it was soft and not really counting. It was like a forced farce of teleprompter eye-hurting, dwell-dodging baffoon trying to sound smart. When he really didn’t believe the words he did, since he is initially on their side. Everyone else, are just cleaning up his mess, because if he has an issue, he sparks fury on Twitter against you and calls you out. That he didn’t with the violence of Charlottesville. That is because he agrees and are one of them.
This is now proven, by the President. It isn’t beyond any doubt. The CEOs who are still part of the Manufacturing Council has a decision, will they be complicit or will they defend sound values? Will they be silent enforces of the ideals of the President. This will counter the ideals of open society and inclusive society that are open to anyone not on race, religion or gender. These are now on stand-by as their inclusive workforce and others can be in question as they can be appointed and on a board. Where they are connected to a leadership that fits “America First”.
President Trump has run an “America First” program, this was first coined this way, as been quoted from the Heritage Foundation: “Like any mass political movement, America First was an amalgamation of groups and fellow travelers who sometimes shared little more in common than an opposition to America’s entry into the war. The ranks of the antiwar movement included pacifists and communists (at least until Germany attacked the Soviet Union in 1941), wild-haired liberals, straight-laced conservatives and everything in between. The antiwar movement was far from homogenous. For instance, in January 1941 Lindbergh issued a press statement distancing himself from the No Foreign Wars Committee headed by the journalist Verne Marshall and pro-Nazi businessman William Rhodes Davis. Lindbergh had helped the group get started, but then cut ties over Marshall’s volatile leadership and vitriolic attacks, including swipes at Lindbergh and other leaders in the America First Committee” (James Jay Carafano, Ph.D. – ‘The Truth About the America First Movement’, 11.07.2016, link: http://www.heritage.org/defense/commentary/the-truth-about-the-america-first-movement).
Also in the Washington Post on the 20th January 2017 wrote this: “During the early 1930s, as the Nazis consolidated control over Germany, the U.S. media baron William Randolph Hearst began touting the slogan “America First” against President Franklin Roosevelt, whom he saw as dangerously likely to “allow the international bankers and the other big influences that have gambled with your prosperity to gamble with your politics.” Hearst regarded Roosevelt’s New Deal as “un-American to the core” and “more communistic than the communists” — unlike Nazism, which he believed had won a great victory for “liberty-loving people” everywhere in defeating Communism” (Eric Rauchway – ‘ President Trump’s ‘America First’ slogan was popularized by Nazi sympathizers’, 20-01.2017, Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/01/20/president-trumps-america-first-slogan-was-popularized-by-nazi-sympathizers/?utm_term=.81f399389af0 ).
So it is not strange Nazi’s, Racists and White Supremacists likes and supports Donald Trump, he uses their lingo and proudly spends time spreading their message to the whole world. It is like his mantra, using their slogans and their messages. Therefore, if the CEO will stand behind it, a man who has never denounced David Duke or had to be forced condemning domestic-terrorism through White Supremacy. There, are not a better time to step down than now.
Or will you be remembered in time for your complicit acts of silence walking together with the disrespect of people in the United States? Peace.
On the 25th of July 2017, the now Texas Democratic Party Representative Al Green has written a resolution to clarify and secure none obstacle and secure the laws of the land. Since, there is clearly a dispute going-on, if the President can pardon himself from self-conflicting crimes. Even if there been studies of this in past, like in the 1970s and 1990s when it came to both Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton, therefore, Trump should not be different from any of them.
The Draft Resolution is very specific and rare. It would be an amendment to the Constitution for the simple matter of the authority and legislative branch of the Presidential Office. In simple terms, this is what he wants to be added as law:
“The President shall not have no power to grant himself a reprieve or pardon for an offence against the United States”.
It is so powerful, even as the codes and the discussion around it shows it would be self-inflicting wounds if he would dare to pardon himself or anyone around him. That being family-members, associates and political allies. So, President Trump. Must feel the heat, as even Representatives will try to add on the constitution to secure that he will no code or law, that his lawyers can twist in his favor. Even if the past cases that has stated the fact and proven that he cannot do so. Since, the law clearly are addressing the functions of the office and if the President happen to do criminal activity previously to being elected into office.
This sort of amendment seems more of a precaution if someone more criminal and sinister are elected into office. However, this sort of idea would not have come under Barrack Obama, One of Bushes and even Jimmy Carter for that matter. This just proves the liability Trump is and are for the Republic. That their own representatives see the need to amend the constitution. So that the President cannot question his powers.
Since that is something, he is up to and that Representatives are clearly following up now. President Trump is only proving his guilt and that the deed is done, if he starts pardoning himself or others. Then, you know by his acts that he is a crook. Since he had to use the state to forge himself and by the seal of office. In addition, it should not be necessary, since the investigations are just beginning and the digging are just revealing more and more every single day.
But the documents of Marcy C. Lawton of 1974 should be clear enough, though not as direct and clear for a President of Trump preempted mind. Who stated on the 5th August 1974:
“Presidential or Legislative Pardon of the President: Under the fundamental rule that no one may be a judge in his own case, the President cannot pardon himself. If under the Twenty-Fifth Amendment the President declared that he was temporarily unable to perform the duties of the office, the Vice President would become Acting President and as such could pardon the President” (Lawton, 1974).
If that is too deep for the President to understand. Then, some of his advisers or the Mooch should explain the matter to him. The constitution should not need a new amendment in this case, because the powers are already clear. However, to bury a body twice sometimes helps the criminals to understand that the victim is already dead. Peace.
I have to continue since you are so persistent in your belief that you are greater and grander than the law. It should be insulting the American people and the Constitution to have such a President like you Trump. Who has the audacity to put himself on the pedestal and think he could do anything to anyone and then get away it with it. It is insulting and beneath the office and beneath the possible position your are holding at the moment. Donald J. Trump, you act like thief and act like disgrace in the White House. If you we’re innocent and your family we’re the same? Why need to be pardoned. If the Trump Campaign and the Trump Organization was clean of guilt, why need the pardon? Do you think the American people are that ignorant and stupid, to not see this. The whole world see it and how you are eaten inside by the guilt of your association and use of Russian questionable financial transaction to keep yourself afloat.
Because of this and your continues allegations and attacks on peers. Your misuse of power and your wish to undermine the American democracy and institutions. It is time to again. Go back in time, last time it was the advice Richard Nixon asked for days before his impeachment for obstruction against justice. The same sort of acts President Trump is currently doing and undermining the law as much as he can. Therefore I have to go back to a document based in 1998, when Law Professor Rotunda are writing to Judge Kenneth Starr on indictment. This was on the matter of then President Bill Clinton. But worth noting certain fragments of document to show the capacity President Trump has under current legislation. Not that he understands it, unless it 140 words or explained to him on ‘Fox and Friends’. Still, worth noting though!
“For Example, if the President in a moment of passion slugs an irritating heckler, he has committed a criminal battery. But no one would suggest that the President should be removed from office simply because of an assault. Yet the President has no right to assault hecklers. If there is no recourse against the President, if he cannot be prosecuted for violating the criminal laws, he will be above the law. Clinton vs. Jones rejected such an immunity; instead, it emphatically agreed with the Eight Circuit that: “the President, like other officials, is subject to the same laws that apply to all citizens”. The “rational for official immunity is inapposite where only personal, private conduct by a President is a issue”. The President has no immunity in such a case. If the Constitution prevents the President from being indicted for violations of one or more federal crime statutes, even if those statutory violations are not impeachable offences, then the Constitution authorizes the President to be above the law. But the Constitution creates an Executive Branch with the President under sworn obligation to faithfully executive the law. The Constitution does not create an absolute Monarch above the law” (Rotunda, P: 5, 1998).
“As Nixon vs. Sirica carefully noted: “Because impeachment is available against all ‘civil officers of the United States’ not merely against the President, it is difficult to understand how many immunites peculiar to the President can emanate by implication from the fact of impeachability”. Moreover, it would be anomalous and aberrant to interpret the Impeachment Clause to immunize the President for alleged criminal acts, some which occurred prior to the time he assumed the Presidency and all far removed from any of the President’s enumerated duties: witness tampering, destruction of documents, subornation of perjury perjury, illegal pay-offs” (Rotunda, P: 7, 1998).
“Later, in Clinton v. Jones, the Court rejected any notion of Presidential immunity (even a temporary immunity) for the President who is sued by a private civil litigant for damages involving acts not within his Presidential duties. In that case, President Clinton’s “strongest argument” supporting his claim for immunity on a temporary basis, the Court said, was the claim that the President occupies a “unique office” and burdening him with litigation would violate the constitutional separation of powers and unduly interfere with the President’s performance of his official duties” (Rotunda, P: 36, 1998).
“These factors all buttress and lead to the same conclusion: it is proper, constitutional, and legal for a federal grand jury to indict a sitting President for serious criminal acts that are not part of, and are contrary to, the President’s official duties. In this country, no one, even President Clinton, is above the law” (Rotunda, P: 55, 1998).
“This conclusion does not imply that a President must be required to serve an actual prison term before he leaves office. The defendant President could remain free pending his trial, and the trial court could defer any prison sentence until he leaves office. The defendant-President may petition the courts to exercise its discretion in appropriate cases. It is one thing for the President to petition the court to exercise its discretion; it is quite another for the President to announce that he is above the law and immune from criminal prosecution” (Rotunda, P: 55, 1998).
This letter of Law Professor Rotunda states very clearly the provisions and special place within the Republic the President has and the laws that needs to be extended to prosecute him/her. So with this in mind, no one not even President Clinton was above the law. The same scenario remains today with President Trump. That Nixon tried to find ways to pardon himself is clear, the same does now President Trump.
The possible collusion and collaboration with foreign officials and entities will be more clear as the investigation and drops of information leaks to the press. The more meetings, lack of disclosure from the Trump Organization and the Trump Campaign. The same is it his family and associates, as long as the narrative still exists and there are plot-lines to define. The story will live on and the investigators will look into the possible breaches. The Office of Special Council Robert Mueller has lots of power. Something, President Trump cannot stop. Therefore, Tucker Carlson and others trying to gain leverage and saying the investigation makes everything in Mosciw illegal, like buying cigarettes in Moscow. That show’s the disrespect of a criminal investigation by the Trump Friendly Press like Fox News and Sinclair Media.
While that goes on, the 1998 letter show’s that the President can be prosecuted and is not a person who cannot be put on trial. What is different unless there is a special court and trial, the criminal offenses done before his Presidential Term and his sentencing has to be served after his term. That because of the Executive Branch and the august role of government the President are. Certainly, ironic writing that while describing Trump.
This will be lines from the letter, that says the most for me, because the criminal offenses before the Presidential Term: “it would be anomalous and aberrant to interpret the Impeachment Clause to immunize the President for alleged criminal acts, some which occurred prior to the time he assumed the Presidency and all far removed from any of the President’s enumerated duties: witness tampering, destruction of documents, subornation of perjury perjury, illegal pay-offs” (Rotunda, 1998).
So obstruction of justice, which is witness tampering and destruction of documents are likely things that people knows Trump has done or wanting to do. That is why Special Investigator Mueller has asked the government and White House to keep their documents relating to Russian affairs and the known meetings with Russians. So the investigation looks into the possible crimes of the Presidency before and also, within, but the impeachment would happen with a federal grand jury, where the President is sentenced for crimes, which is not in the President’s Office duties. So, the possible grand jury are there as much as it was for Nixon and was for Clinton. No difference for Trump, unless the House of Representatives and Senators at the Congress are spineless individuals who are all loyal to Moscow and Russians like Trump. Peace.
Ronald R. Rotunda letter to Judge Kenneth W. Starr – ‘Re: Indictability of the President’ (13.05.1998)
This is days after Emmett Tyrrell showed the true colours and spark of ignorance that he was so apologetic that even Corey Lewandowski and Stephen K. Bannon isn’t. They are straight forward attacking minorities and claiming what their ring-leader and coming President Donald J. Trump. Those African-Americans, Latinos and all the minorities; I am white European; I hate the ones claiming to be superior because of the colour, faith or creed. None of us asked for where we we’re born and where we from, we just entered planet earth and will leave the same way we entered. I’m a human being… I am a human first, like the rest on this blue-planet, not white, that is just my skin. I am just a man, not superior… for those who believe that needs a reality check and needs new a vision. Maybe the Clark Kents of the world can change the world, but I am just a human being, who is tired of this men claiming this sort of lies and deceptions. Trying to spin the world and reality, they need guidance and help and that ASAP!
So after following this election, I disagreed and felt that the Republican National Party and the coming President Trump has said some disgraceful things. That surely a certain Emmett Tyrrell needs to read and might even get the clips to listen to. Because I don’t know how much marshmallows between his earholes, but certainly enough to silence the noise of nasal voice of Trump during the Campaign of 2015-2016; where Trump said all kind of racist crap… therefore the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) and other White Supremacists supported the candidacy.
Here is what was said on BBC Newsnight after the Election result:
“Tyrrell claimed Trump “hasn’t been racist”. Adichie replied: “I’m sorry but… if you are a white man, you don’t get to define what racism is, you really don’t” (…) “You don’t get to sit there and say he hasn’t been racist when he objectively has” (…) “And it’s not about your opinion. Racism is an objective reality and Donald Trump has inhabited that reality.” Tyrrell retorted: “Do you know of the false consciousness which is a theory you are talking about is a Marxist concept?” (…) “In other words… I can’t even open my mouth here because I am a white male.” Adichie said: “No, of course you can. I am just saying to you that Donald Trump has shown us and has said things that are objectively racist.” (Snowdon, 2016).
Than you can see all the nonsense been said from July 2015 to October 2016; this is snippets because Trump didn’t know how to keep his mouth shut or his mouth silent. He usually double-down and continue to pounder on the subjects to show his true opinions.
Trump in July 2015:
“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending the best” (…) “They’re not sending you, they’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems. They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime. They’re rapists and some, I assume, are good people, but I speak to border guards and they’re telling us what we’re getting” (Fox News, 2015).
Trump in December 2015:
“Donald J. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on” (…) “Mr. Trump stated, “Without looking at the various polling data, it is obvious to anybody the hatred is beyond comprehension. Where this hatred comes from and why we will have to determine. Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life. If I win the election for President, we are going to Make America Great Again.” (Trump, 2015).
Trump in August 2016:
“The Democrats have failed completely in the inner cities,” he told an audience in Ohio this week. “Poverty. Rejection. Horrible education. No housing, no homes, no ownership. Crime at levels that nobody has seen. You can go to war zones in countries that we are fighting and it’s safer than living in some of our inner cities that are run by the Democrats.” He went on, “Look, it is a disaster the way African-Americans are living, in many cases, and, in many cases the way Hispanics are living, and I say it with such a deep-felt feeling: What do you have to lose? I will straighten it out. I’ll bring jobs back. We’ll bring spirit back. We’ll get rid of the crime. You’ll be able to walk down the street without getting shot. Right now, you walk down the street, you get shot.” (Waldman, 2016).
Trump in September 2016:
“We need law and order. If we don’t have it, we’re not going to have a country” (…) “African Americans and Hispanics are living in hell. You walk down the street and you get shot” (…) “gangs roaming the streets” (…) “African American communities are being decimated by crime” (Chan, 2016).
Second in September 2016:
“I think Chicago needs stop and frisk. Now people can criticize me for that or people can say whatever they want, but they asked me about Chicago and I think stop and frisk with good strong — you know — good, strong law and order. But you have to do something. It can’t continue the way it’s going,” Trump said in an appearance on Fox & Friends Thursday” (…) “You know, [the police are] proactive and if they see a person possibly with a gun or they think may have a gun, they will see the person and they’ll look and they’ll take the gun away,” Trump said” (…) “Wow, here we go again. It’s very sad. When you look at what’s going on it’s very sad. It’s very divided, our country, and it’s getting worse. So, I’m not overly surprised to see it but it’s happening everywhere,” Trump said. “It just seems that there’s a lack of spirit between the white and the black. I mean, it’s a terrible thing that we’re witnessing.” (Collins, 2016).
Third in September 2016:
“The Democratic Party has run the inner cities for 50, 60, 70 years and even a hundred years straight” (…) “We are on a mission of change. That includes a new agenda” (…) “You can go to Afghanistan. You can go to war-torn countries and you will find that it’s safer than being in the middle of some of our inner cities” (…) “We’re going to give security and safety” (Trudo, 2016).
Trump in October 2016:
“Nobody needs to tell African-Americans in this country that the old new deal from the Democratic Party isn’t working for them. In election after election, Democratic party leaders take African-American voters for granted and year after year the condition of Black America gets worse. The conditions in our inner cities today are unacceptable. Too many African-Americans have been left behind” (…)”Safe Communities. We will make our communities safe again. Every poor African-American child must be able to walk down the street in peace. Safety is a civil right. We will invest in training and funding both local and federal law enforcement operations to remove the gang members, drug dealers, and criminal cartels from our neighborhoods. The reduction of crime is not merely a goal – but a necessity” (…) “We will restore the civil rights of African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, and all Americans, by ending illegal immigration. No group has been more economically harmed by decades of illegal immigration than low-income African-American workers. Hillary’s pledge to enact “open borders,” – made in secret to a foreign bank – would destroy the African-American middle class. We will reform visa rules to give American workers preference for jobs, and we will suspend reckless refugee admissions from terror-prone regions that cost taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars. We will use a portion of the money saved by enforcing our laws, and suspending refugees, to re-invested in our inner cities” (Trump, 2016).
If these words, statements doesn’t get understood by fellow man Emmett Tyrrell, than he is ignorant, blatant disgrace to the man-kind as we know. People like him cannot say that the coming American President Trump isn’t racist; because he pre-determined the destinies of the African-Americans, the Muslims and Latinos as the Mexicans that are coming is the reasons for the crimes and drugs in United States.
I am sure that the United States should send the President-Elect to walk around in Afghanistan, in the suburbs of Kabul or any other town, before he walks back to Baltimore and Chicago, as the predicament of the crimes and gangs are suspicious ways of using them as pawns to scare the rest to vote for him.
So please Emmett Tyrrell, another Trump apologists like Joe Scarborough of MSNBC and others, please either shut-up or apologise for your nonsense. Trump has a racial undertone of white supremacy going back to when tried to kick-out African American tenants in 1973:
“They first met him, on the front page no less, on Oct. 16, 1973. Then 27 years old, Mr. Trump was the president of the Trump Management Corporation, at 600 Avenue Z in Brooklyn, which owned more than 14,000 apartments in Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island” (…) “Major Landlord Accused of Antiblack Bias in City,” the headline stated. The Department of Justice had brought suit in federal court in Brooklyn against Mr. Trump and his father, Fred C. Trump, charging them with violating the Fair Housing Act of 1968 in the operation of 39 buildings” (…) “The government contended that Trump Management had refused to rent or negotiate rentals ‘because of race and color,’ ” The Times reported. “It also charged that the company had required different rental terms and conditions because of race and that it had misrepresented to blacks that apartments were not available.” (Dunlap, 2015).
This was the 1970s and it’s the same fellow who uses by any means, whatever at his disposal for his own gain. As he did through the Trump Management to control who lived in his buildings… this will be the same way in the future. His acts have been like this all through his career, so why should he stop now being biased and brash in his actions.
Enough of this crap. Peace.
Collins, Eliza – ‘Trump backs up on ‘stop and frisk’, says he means just Chicago’ (22.09.2016) link: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/09/22/trump-narrows-call-stop-and-frisk-policy-chicago/90826694/
Chan, Melissa – ‘Donald Trump Claims Black and Hispanic People Are ‘Living in Hell’ (26.09.2016) link: http://fortune.com/2016/09/26/presidential-debate-donald-trump-living-in-hell-black-people/
Donald J. Trump – ‘DONALD J. TRUMP STATEMENT ON PREVENTING MUSLIM IMMIGRATION’ (07.12.2015) link: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-statement-on-preventing-muslim-immigration
Donald J. Trump – ‘DONALD J. TRUMP’S NEW DEAL FOR BLACK AMERICA’ (31.10.2016) link: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-announces-a-plan-for-urban-renewal1
Dunlap, David W. –‘1973 | Meet Donald Trump’ (30.07.2015) link: http://www.nytimes.com/times-insider/2015/07/30/1973-meet-donald-trump/
Fox News – ‘Trump stands by statements on Mexican illegal immigrants, surprised by backlash’ (04.07.2015) link: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/07/04/trump-stands-by-views-dangerous-mexican-illegal-immigrants-admits-surprised-by.html
Snowdon, Kathryn – ‘Emmett Tyrrell’s Explanation Of Racism On BBC Newsnight’ (12.11.2016) link: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/chimamanda-ngozi-adichie-shuts-down-robert-emmett-tyrrells-explanation-racism-bbc-newsnight_uk_58275d76e4b0ec3145f88086
Trudo, Hanna – ‘Trump calls Afghanistan safer than America’s inner cities’ (12.09.2016) link: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/trump-afghanistan-inner-cities-228057
Waldman, Paul – ‘Donald Trump’s new plea to minorities: You’re pathetic, so vote for me’ (24.08.2016) link: http://theweek.com/articles/644560/donald-trumps-new-plea-minorities-youre-pathetic-vote